VICKI WALTON: Hey, Chris. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Hey, hey. VICKI WALTON: Just thought I'd come early and make sure I get the captioner set up. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Yeah. I was like, where's the captioner here? Oh, it looks like you already started the recording. VICKI WALTON: Yeah, I think it starts automatically because when I went in to do a test to see if the image would come to my instance, it started recording the minute I logged in. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: OK. I can't remember. I thought there was a checkbox. I think I unchecked it so we can manually start the recording. VICKI WALTON: OK. At least, you know what's on. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: You can't change things for a meeting that's happening, but-- VICKI WALTON: You have this set to have people come in automatically? Or do you have them in a waiting room? CHRISTOPHER SORAN: I set up the waiting room. VICKI WALTON: OK. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Oh, yep. Automatically record meeting in class. OK. Let's see. Not seeing anybody in the waiting room. Oh, somebody is in the waiting room. VICKI WALTON: Yeah. Yeah, the captioners-- she told me that it's-- I don't always know that they-- I won't always know the name of the person, but they'll have the name "captioner" next to their name. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Yeah. The person in the waiting room has likely seen next to their name. So that's not the captioner. VICKI WALTON: Yeah, yeah. Exactly. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Somebody is here. Now I'm kind of wondering if we should have had somebody stationed in the old one. Never thought of that one. VICKI WALTON: Well, I think we did ask them to delete it. So let's hope they don't go into the old one. I don't have it anymore, so I couldn't go in and check. Well, actually, it might still be-- no, it wouldn't because I deleted the series. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Good morning, Padma. Thanks for joining. PADMA: Good morning. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Everything works in the new calendar invite? PADMA: Yes. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: So let's co-host. You came in without me approving you in the waiting room. So everything's going good so far. OK. I'm going to get to-- try on some screen-sharing, make sure everything looks good. OK. So you can see my slides. VICKI WALTON: Yeah. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Sweet. Stop sharing until we get back in. VICKI WALTON: Oh. Hi, Padma. Sorry, I was concentrating on something. PADMA: Yeah. Hello. Yeah. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Waiting for the captioner to come in so I can get them set up, but don't see them yet so. PADMA: Yeah. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: We got two minutes. VICKI WALTON: Yeah. I'll just keep-- I'll just keep watch. And whenever they come in, I'll just do my stuff. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Sounds good. My phone says 11:01. My computer says 10:59. Which one's right? VICKI WALTON: Whichever one you want. PADMA: 11:01 in mine. VICKI WALTON: Yeah, I have 11:01 on my desktop. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: All right. I'm letting everybody in then. We're a minute out. VICKI WALTON: Yeah, do it. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for coming today. Aaron, nice to see you. AARON TRAN: Good to see you. I can't remember the last time we were in a meeting together. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: All right. I miss your face. I miss working with you. AARON TRAN: I miss you as well CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Hey. PADMA: Hey. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Thanks for coming. AARON TRAN: Thank you. AMY: Hey, Chris. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Hey, hey. AMY: Hey, Christopher. How are you? CHRISTOPHER SORAN: What's going on? Well, thanks, everybody, for coming. I'm going to go ahead and keep admitting people. I'll just get screen-sharing and rolling. Won't take up too much of your morning. I know you're all busy. Appreciate your time. So Thanks for finding the new forum series. VICKI WALTON: Chris, I just want to mention that so far our captioner is not in the meeting. So if she shows up-- or they show up, I will make sure I try to get them connected. But so far, we don't have anybody. AARON TRAN: They might have clicked the wrong meeting like I did. VICKI WALTON: I sent them the new link, so I'm hoping they remembered that. AARON TRAN: Both of mine showed up next to each other on the calendar. So hopefully, they got the right one. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Yeah. Yeah, with Monica out on maternity leave, and her being the person that created the calendar in series, we can't delete it. So everybody will have to delete it on their own. Sorry for all the confusion. We're very excited for her, growing her family. So it should be out for a little bit. All right. So we've got some OKTA, HCX. We're looking at some tools. And we'll talk through some HCM bugs. All right. So welcome, everybody in our monthly ctcLink accessibility forum. First up, we have OKTA, so we're continuing to meet with OKTA monthly as they talk through and give us updates on the accessibility fixes that they're doing related to OKTA. And so you may not know this from using multifactor authentication in the ctcLink. Your college may be implementing this as well for other uses. So we're going to continue to get updates from them. The security methods and the Settings page is going to get a total overhaul, so this will look totally different. Expected to come into production around the March or April timeframe. So we're waiting on that. Now they're working on it. Update from HighPoint, so the HCX or HighPoint Campus Experience, the mobile experience, that many, many folks in the system use. They're hiring a third party to accessibility audit. They have-- in their VPAT they've got four items that they say supports with exceptions, as well as some additional tickets we've submitted they're working on fixing. So they anticipate the fixes to come in on February 9th. Slides on last week. So those will be coming when we do our update. So we're going to take the latest HCX version and deploy that with the latest Campus Solution's version. And that will be coming later this year. We'll start our project in August, and we'll get it to production around October. So it'll be nice to have this third-party audit done over it. And make sure that nothing-- they don't support with exceptions anymore. They fully support everything. So I'm anxious to see the report and hear back from them. It was nice they were supportive of doing that themselves. So they've been good to work with and all of our accessibility tickets. Any questions around this? Yeah. So we'll just look for that sort of results and an updated VPAT. There's some folks here at the State Board. We are trailing out this Axe DevTools Pro, seeing if it's a tool we can add to our tool kit to just increase how we're working around accessibility, scanning over pages. Certainly, we're following the standards as we're doing development, but having additional tools to help find things and help us give additional data to Oracle for submitting a bug, accessibility bug, or we're working on development, custom development ourselves. So we're trialing it out. Does anybody have experience using this tool or another tool similar to it? That's all right. No worries. So we're checking it out. We'll let you know. There's some cold scanning and gives you some guided feedback on the pages and stuff. So we're putting it through its paces. Moving on to human capital management, or HCM. So in the HCM 46, there was a configurable header framework on fluid pages that was added, and we had some ideas to leverage that to improve some functionality like on the enter time or report time pages. So it's just a framework that we can leverage. It's something that's just in place so we haven't leveraged yet on any pages because we found an accessibility issue with it. We want to make sure that gets resolved before we implement any new features or leverage it on any pages. Initially, Oracle rejected us saying this wasn't a bug. This was working as intended. But they would consider if we submitted an enhancement request for it. And we did some enhancement requests for it. And I went out to a bunch of other colleagues around the country that also attend the quarterly accessibility forums that Oracle has and just emailed them. AARON TRAN: Why did you have to do that, though? CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Well, because Oracle has told us that for all our enhancements, the number of votes don't matter. It's the number of unique organizations that matter. So we used to be able to just send it out to-- I'll just send it out to everybody. The State Board just say, hey, vote. We get we get out 50 or 100 votes, no problem. We can send it out to this listserv, and we can get the votes up. But they consider anybody in the State Board-supported colleges to be one organization. So that would only count for one vote, unique vote, anyways. So I found that to be frustrating, but I will do whatever it takes to get it fixed. So they accepted our enhancement request and development's begun on it. It's frustrating, but I'll do what I gotta. We'll get there. Oh, let's see. Oh, OK. Our captioner just came in. VICKI WALTON: He is, but I cannot get-- I don't have an option to assign the participant to type when I go in and look, so I'm emailing them. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: OK. Let's see. Yeah, I think you have-- you came in first, so you got primary host status. Yeah, I'm not seeing-- I'm clicking that dot, dot, dot. [INTERPOSING VOICES] VICKI WALTON: I'm not getting any of that. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: It's interesting. We'll continue to look into that. Thanks, everybody for bearing with us in the captions. All right. More Enter Time Page fun. So there's a focus issue when you're switching between elapsed and punch time. So Oracle's agreed it's a bug, and they're going to be working on it in PeopleTools update. So that's good. There's also a number of other intern report time bugs that are happening. So we've got to go through the list here. So there's a calendar widget. And there was an issue with the date box edit being invisible, so that fix will be coming in HCM 49. In fact, all of these, except for two of them, the fixes will be coming in HCM 49, which we'll be implementing here in just a few months. So that's one after you're interacting with the Calendar widget. On the other time, if you're pressing tab, the focus shifts to the banner area. So it needs to properly shift and remain on the Calendar widget. There's-- on three different pages, Report Time, Report Leave, Weekly Time pages. Pressing the tab, key the focus skips the date entry box. So that is going to be corrected in HCM 49 . Another one on the Time Summary page and the Manage Absences page, the back button takes you to the time dashboard. But on the other pages, the back button incorrectly takes you back to your Employee Self Service, even if you came out through the dashboard. So it's not how-- not supposed to work like that. And then there's one where the focus issue on the banner region goes to the banner region after you interact with the Calendar widget. So if you're pressing Next or Previous in the Calendar widget, that focus shifts off the Calendar widget, and you shouldn't-- the focus should stay in that Calendar widget that you're interacting with. It shouldn't pop off to some other thing when the page reloads after you hit the Next button. That was one where I actually responded to work on that. In the service request this morning where they said it was working as design, and they weren't going to fix it. And I said, nope, that's a violation. Got to fix it. So they've gotten that back to their engineering team, and I'm waiting to hear back from them. Hopefully, they'll agree. It needs to get fixed. Otherwise, I'll just keep asking. And then there was another one where the date value was selecting the calendar, which it wasn't being announced or displayed anywhere in the page. Yeah, so this was in a previous design of the page, but the page is getting redesigned. There's also-- the Calendar widget isn't consistently displayed on those different pages like Report Time, Enter Time, Absence pages, it should be-- That'll be corrected in HCM 49. It should be standard. AARON TRAN: The Calendar widget isn't consistent with those pages. They interact differently depending on what Calendar widget on what page and where on the page they're not consistent. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Yeah, the term makes it hard to interact with. You'd assume that the widget should work the same way. Yeah. PADMA: The date box was not displayed on all pages. So it was-- how we select the date was-- interaction was different on different pages. So they are correcting that. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: And then, there's-- in Firefox, the Calendar button-- this announces a button, sound like there was going to be a people tool-- a feature people tools fix. That might be the resolution. We're still working with them on that. And then-- also when the Report Time page opens after reading the name, document NVDA reads, link graphic previous date. And it shouldn't be reading that just when the page opens. So we've got a bunch of fixes coming in the next HCM update. So looking forward to getting those implemented. Should be a big accessibility IOVD. Coming on that one. So any questions on these ones? Hoping everybody has a much better experience, entering time, and reporting time, and reporting leave. Substandard stuff, everybody should be able to have a consistent experience on. So feel free to submit future form ideas. It's our online submission form. Well I'll make sure we get them on the agenda and get it addressed the next meeting. Also check out our web page where we'll be posting things like the image overview documents related to accessibility. The next one will get posted. We're doing a PeopleTools updating. That's our next update in the calendar, and it'll be accessibility image overview document related to that update coming. And we've got our next meeting coming on March 12th. Thanks, everybody, for finding the right zoom room and coming in. I hope that wasn't too confusing with the two calendar invites. VICKI WALTON: You can actually delete those yourself. We can't delete them from Monica. But you can go in and delete the series. I sent an email out explaining how to do that. But just select Don't Send because you don't want Monica to get a bunch of email overloads in her inbox. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: So that was all the updates I had for today. And a quick one, we're just continuing to roll, push Oracle to fix stuff, when they don't want to. Yeah. So thanks, everybody. AMY: Thanks, Christopher. CHRISTOPHER SORAN: Have a good day. I'm going to stop the recording. AMY: Good to see you. AARON TRAN: Thank you.